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Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Favre's back...AGAIN!!!

I'm so sick of this guy! This guy can't make up his mind at all. He was debating in the offseason to stay retired or come back to football with the Vikings. He was given a deadline. It passed and he said that he was going to stay retired. Now we find out as teams gear up for their second preseason game that Favre is boarding a plane and is expected to sign a $10-$12M contract pending a physical. WTF, man?!!!!

Is that kind of money for one year?!!! This guy went from being one of the greatest QBs of all time to a egomaniacal joke. I hope he falls flat on his face. I'm not a Bear fan but I hope the Bears drive him into the ground. Better yet, I hope the Packers (and their fans) demolish him on his return to Green Bay. I would like nothing more than Aaron Rodgers to outplay him in every way, shape, form when the two face. Every time Rodgers throws a TD, he should do a Lambeau leap right into Favre's arms.

I'm so tired of that dude.

12 comments:

Rob said...

I knew it!

The guy is a joke and I hope he tears up the Vikings team with his ego.

I don't like the Vikes anyway, so I am happy that they get to deal with the Favre circus.

j, k, and s's d said...

Same thing is going to happen in Minnesota like it did last year in NY. People will be enamored at first. He will show some success and will want to stick it into GB's face but as the year wears on, his body will wear down, he won't be able to perform like he and everyone else expects him to. The fans/media will get on him and then he will retire again.

He's an ass! I hope the GB/Viking game at Lambeau is flexed for national television. Would love to watch that game.

deepie said...

He's an egomaniac and a selfish little baby in a 40-year old body. That doesn't change the fact that he's still a top 10 QB in the league.

I think the Vikings did the right thing. We'll just have to see if his body holds up. All in all, I really don't have a problem with him. So what if he's a baby? He brings excitement to the game and he'll be the only reason any non-Viking fan has to watch that team play.

Rob said...

Top 10? I think not. He was 21st in QB ratings last year. Tavaris Jackson had a better QB rating by far.

His numbers were basically like Sage Rosenfels.

In addition, he hasn't been a playoff caliber QB in years.

Again, since I am a Bears fan, I like the move by the Vikings.

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deepie said...

His numbers only went south after he was obviously injured. He was lighting it up for the first 11 games as the Jets went 8-3. He took the Packers to the NFC Championship game the year before and missed the Super Bowl only due to a bad decision he made in overtime.

I think he still has it. He at least has more than Sage or Tavaris. I think this makes the Vikings the favorite in the division. It's just a matter of whether or not he can remain healthy for the entire season.

j, k, and s's d said...

He sucks, man. The guy and the Vikings are living off of the Favre reputation/legacy. Favre is the guy that can't let go. His body won't be able to hold up and it will betray him. Mentally he probably thinks he can still do it but physically he doesn't have it anymore.

The guy had the biceps issue and now he has a small tear in his rotator cuff. That is his out once things go badly this year. Midseason when things aren't going well, he will get the MRI and discuss things with Dr. James Andrews and they will say that the tear has expanded and that is why there is weakness in his arm. They will do this either midseason or after the season and say that Favre played most of the season with a significant tear when most people would have to shut it down. It will make Favre look like some kind of warrior and give him that excuse for his poor play.

I don't think he is a top 10 QB anymore either. He is probably still better than Sage and Tavaris but to pay him $25M over 2 years is ridiculous.

He's an ass!

deepie said...

I don't have a problem with a guy who can start in this league doing anything he can to keep playing. Green Bay forced him to retire by refusing to play him and refusing to trade him. He may have handled things incorrectly and he may have looked like an arse in the process, but he landed on a team that is thrilled to have him, in a system he knows, with coaches that he knows.

There are all but a few QBs starting in this league that are consistently better than Favre. I'd take him over any starter except for a few stud QBs. He should have a fine season, which means the Vikings are a contender in the NFC.

j, k, and s's d said...

I don't have a problem with a a guy who can start in this league doing anything he can to keep playing either unless he can't make up his mind on whether he should retire or not. As a team and an organization, it makes it very difficult when you don't know if your QB is coming back or not.

Green Bay did not force him into retirement. Favre said himself at his first retirement speech that they had nothing to do with it. So on March 4, 2008, Favre formally announced his retirement. Although Favre stated that he had been willing to play another year, he felt that another season would only be successful if he led his team to another Super Bowl victory. He added the chances for a Super Bowl win are small, and that he wasn't up for the challenge. At his press conference, Favre openly wept about leaving the NFL. He stated that his decision, regardless of what was being said in the media, had nothing to do with what the Packers did or didn't do. He said that his decision to retire was based on the fact that he didn't want to play anymore. He said during the conference, "I know I can play, but I don't think I want to. And that's really what it comes down to."

On July 2, 2008, it was reported that Favre was in contact with the Packers about a possible return to the team. Now Favre had handcuffed the Packers the year before delaying his decision to retire or not. In fairness to the Packers, they wanted his decision before the draft and FA signing period so that they could prepare either way. The Packers were willing to welcome him back but HE chose to retire. Thus, the Packers had to move on. Everything was fine until after the draft and FA signing period Favre said, "Oops! Do over!"

On July 11, 2008, Favre sent a letter to the Packers asking for his unconditional release to allow him to play for another NFL team. No way the Packers should do this and allow him to walk on to the Vikings or Bears and have him play for a divisional rival. At this point, Rodgers has been given the starting QB job and it is unfair to him and the team to just say forget everything we told you and lets just let Favre come back and pretend the last 3-4 months never happened.

Packers general manager Ted Thompson announced he would not grant Favre an unconditional release and reaffirmed the organization's commitment to Aaron Rodgers as its new quarterback. Complicating matters is Favre's unique contract giving him the leverage to void any potential trade by not reporting to the camp of the team he might be traded to if the Packers elect to go that route.

Again, the thing was that Green Bay would have been happy to have Favre back had he said originally that he wanted to come back. He made his choice and the Pack accepted and had no choice but to move on. Months later, when he decided to come back, they can't just drop everything for him. Point is that they didn't do anything to force him into retirement.

Fine. He went to the Jets, started out decent but finished up poorly. His teammates there were angry with him and his poor play and Thomas Jones (among others) felt like he should be benched.

He is one of the greatest QBs to have ever played the game but he is not a top tier QB anymore. He is still decent but Brett Favre is about Brett Favre. He wants to play but on his rules.

Again, he is no longer a top tier QB. He had a great year 2 years ago but his QB rankings have not been impressive over the last several years:

2008 - ranked 21
2007 - ranked 6
2006 - ranked 25
2005 - ranked 31

Deeps, you're right in that at least he is going to a team with a system he is familiar with and that has the best RB in the game so that should help create opportunities for him. He may end up having a good year but I personally do not think he is that great anymore. He'll be turning 40 in October and I wouldn't pay him the kind of money he is getting along with having to deal with his antics.

deepie said...

Wow. You sure have your brain wrapped around the Favre history. Maybe that's why you're not thrilled with him. I really don't care what he did or what he said. In that moment in time, it was comical and stupid, but when he suits up on Sunday, he's fun to watch. I'm in it for the entertainment value, and to some degree, the Favre soap-opera is entertaining in of itself.

Regardless of what I think, it was made abundantly clear during the course of Favre-apalooza that the Packers never intended to start him in 2008. They wanted to move on and use Rogers and prepare for the future. Favre's antics at his 1st retirement press conference were simply to remain in good standing with the Green Bay fans. He retired and played dumb so he could be released from the Packers and keep playing.

I think he was selfish for playing injured last year. His teammates lost confidence in him due to it. If he's healthy this year, he can only help the Vikings. All accounts indicate that the team and the players are thrilled to have him on board.

j, k, and s's d said...

I might have my brain wrapped around the Favre history but it sounds like you got your ass wrapped around a Favre shaped dildo. Like you and most fans, I'm looking forward to the Favre-appalooza feast fest soap opera candle(s) up your ass show as well. Whether he is great or sucks, it's going to be fun to watch.

Not really sure how/why you say that it was abundantly clear that the Packers never intended to start him in 2008. I think what was abundantly clear was that they wanted a decision from him whether he was going to stay or go early on so that there was no guessing and so they could start planning for the 2008 season. They said that they would have welcomed his return if he had decided not to retire. They just didn't want to deal with his same antics like they did at the end of 2007.

No question he is selfish. ESPN's Jeffri Chahida had a nice piece on it all being about Favre now, "As much as Favre spent part of his Tuesday news conference talking about how great a teammate he has been, the fact is that few recent teammates have been saying the same thing about him. It's hard to remember anybody from the Jets standing up for Favre when anonymous team sources were ripping him for being aloof during his few months in New York. You also can bet many Packers weren't too thrilled by all the drama he created with his attempted return to their team last summer. Let's face it: Favre has cared more about getting his way lately than he's cared about being the ultimate team player.

That's the only part of his legacy that he has really been tarnishing these days. While his place among the game's all-time greats will never be in question, Favre has undergone a stark transformation over the past two years. He used to be a passionate, charismatic, fun-loving guy who was as genuine as they came. Now he's just insecure, indecisive and manipulative, a man who clearly has shown us why the Packers finally got tired of dealing with his difficult ways in the first place."

Tony Dungy brought up a good point on Chicago's Waddle and Silvy show. "He's going to have to let them (his teammates) know he's as committed as they are. And get that across to them. If that happens, it could to be a big boost. If it doesn't happen, if players feel you weren't in this from the beginning ... is he really in this with us? If there were feelings for quarterbacks who were already there ... it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out." That is what happened in NY. Many of the players felt like he was in it for himself.

Again, get ready for the Favre-appalooza tour! IT'S ASSTASTIC!!!!

Rob said...

He wasn't lighting it up when the Jets were 8-3. He had one 6 TD game (w/1 interception). If you take that one game away and look at the other 10 games he had 14 TDs and 12 Ints.

He didn't have any 300 yard games in those first 11 (he had one 290 yard game).

Seven of the games he threw for less than 225 yards.

The game has passed him by and I am sure we will see it right before our eyes.

Again, as a Bear fan I love it. I think he is going to make the Vikings worse. In his last three years in GB he racked up 11 Ints and 2 TDs against the Bears and the Packers lost 5 of those 6 games.