From the NFL Network:
Being able to make "all the throws" is a prerequisite for NFL quarterbacking, which, right now may discount Peyton Manning. [Manning] is more injured than people realize, Mike Lombardi of the NFL Network told Bill Simmons on his podcast today. "He can't throw the ball," Lombardi said. "I've talked to people who've caught the ball for him. He can't throw the ball to his left. He can't throw the ball across his body, because he doesn't feel it. People that catch the ball for him say he doesn't really have velocity on the ball yet." Manning was cleared to play last week. But Lombardi says being cleared to play and being able to play are two very different things.
"He CAN'T throw the ball." There is a problem when a QB can't throw the ball. If we make any type of play on Manning, I will be extremely disappointed.
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Apparently, the issue is nerve regeneration that is not happening as quickly as anticipated. He'll probably regain the strength and feeling, but it may not happen in time for next season.
Manning's health is the only thing that makes acquiring him a risk. If we get him, it better be for an incentive filled contract with little guaranteed. Reports say Manning would be OK with such a contract.
If we get Manning to sign here, I say we still go hard after RG3. RG3 is a supreme talent and is an extremely bright kid with all of the leadership intangibles you want in a QB. The problem is, he played in a spread offense at Baylor where he didn't have to read defenses. If he has at least one year to learn from one of the greatest ever, we'll be set at QB for a decade. You may think getting Manning and RG3 would be overkill at the QB spot, but this team has tried everything except find an exceptional QB to lead the offense. Without a QB, we're destined to be mediocre at best and I think we're all tired of striving for mediocrity.
The issue is that his health is a HUGE risk. There is also his age and the fact that he would playing for a new team. It's not as easy as just putting on a new uniform. He has been a career Colt and to switch at this stage in his career would bring growing pains. From the new facilities, to the new personnel (players AND staff), to the new offense, to all the new surroundings and routines. It may not be a smooth transition.
I am totally against bringing in Manning unless it was minimal guaranteed money.
Bringing Manning into Washington will make one thing apparent. Dan the Man is in it to win it. In March that is. It would be a horrible move in my opinion because of the realities. But it would sell and youd have to admit that. People here in DC would go crazy. Ignoring the realities, A HEALTHY Manning would give this team and immediate sense of competency and confidence. If somehow he is given some freedom to manage the play of the field as he needs to, I think he is so great, he can pick apart any defense any time, with any set of receivers. Its clear because look at the Colts. With him they are 12-4, 13-3. Without him, 2-14. Its clear that he made that team better than they really are. He could do the same here if he is given some freedom. I have to admit, if he were here, I would pay to go see him play.
I do think two first round picks for RG3 is fair. That is this years pick and next years first round pick. As long as its just that it should be fine.
Bringing Manning in will mean only one thing to me - that the Deadskin "braintrust" is made up of even bigger idiots than I already think they have.
If you bring Manning - you have to commit at least $12 million toward the cap this year. It is unlikely that Manning would accept taking a one year deal and then allowing RG3 or any other high first round QB to be drafted. Manning is going to go somewhere where he can potentially play for 3-4 years.
Even if you could get RG3 - which would be unlikely, and you somehow got Manning's blessing (again unlikely), the cap hit would be enormous.
Bringing on Manning would also mean that Shanny would have to probably get rid of Shanny Jr. as OC. Manning is not going to take orders from Shanny Jr., he is going to call his own plays.
Manning is going to go to Miami - good weather, good D and some talented skill players. He may choose Jacksonville or even Tennessee to stay in the division. I think there is a reasonable possibility of trying to make it work with the Jets, but that seems about it to me. I do not see Shanny gambling on Manning.
I REALLY can't see him coming to the Skins. The good news is that we have a lot of cap room. Hopefully we don't squander it by bringing Manning here. I do think it is well understood that we are in rebuild mode and the Skins situation isn't good for either party.
If the price is right, get RG3. Otherwise, draft a DB or stud WR with the first pick then go QB with the second pick.
I heard they are considering Ryan Tannehill (QB - Texas A&M).
I expect them to stay put at 6 and then go with Tannehill.
We have $45 million in free cap space. A number of free agents have to be resigned and we need to keep about $10 available for the new rookie class. That said, there's plenty o' cash to pick up Manning if it comes down to that. I have NO PROBLEM with bringing Manning to Washington IF he can regain his arm strength. Here's my list of preferred scenarios in ranked order:
1. Skip the Manning experiment acquire Kyle Orton instead. Then do everything and anything necessary to get RG3. Focus free agency and the remainder of the draft on the O-line and secondary.
2. Sign Manning and STILL go after RG3. Manning could be done in 5 games. If so, you want to have a young, dynamic kid to step in. Tannehill has barely a year of college QB experience. He's also a bright kid (pre-med student), but he's not ready to step in and, by all accounts, his performance at the Senior Bowl proved that he's far from ready for the NFL.
3. Manning and Tannehill. Just like with options 1 and 2, this way we have a short term and long term solution. The reason why I don't like this option that much is because both of these solutions are higher risk. Manning is a play away from the analyst booth and Tannehill is a 2nd tier college QB.
So, the ideal solution involves RG3. He is the long term answer. When it all boils down, I don't care if we bring in Payton, Archie, or Cooper Manning for the short term. As long as the long term answer is RG3, I'll be ecstatic.
My ideal scenario would be as follows:
1. Two first round picks for RG3 and stay with Rexy for the near term.
2. Too costly for RG3 so pick up a DB or WR with #6 and then go second tier rookie QB in the second round.
Stay away from Manning.
My ideal scenario:
1. Get Manning and spend $30M/year on him (Deadskins like to overpay).
2. Trade the #6 pick to the Bears for a Brian Urlacher signed football.
3. Then, start Rex over Manning and embarrass Manning.
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